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So what? You could get a DOA product from Apple, Xiaomi or Cisco. Send it back, get a new one. I got a DOA PlayStation 4 and an expensive LG monitor.


I'm very happy with my iPhone 13 Mini, my wife is very happy with her iPhone 12. They feel exactly the same as when bought new.

Whatever is it that you're saying that Apple does, it's either not obvious or they're shit at it.


I dunno, I went from 2013 Pro to 2020 Air to 2024 Pro, I also use the previous Magic Keyboard (sans TouchID) and they all feel similar. The Magic Keyboard feels a lot like the 2024 Pro, the Air has less travel and has a sharper click and the old Pro has the most travel and is the mushiest. But they all feel like members of the same family, and are all very nice keyboards.


This is interesting. They all felt very different to me.

This actually reminded me a study 40% of people can't tell the difference between Coca Cola and Pepsi. And then some 30% can taste the difference but can't tell which is which, 10% can tell but don't have preference.

I guess I am in the extreme minority. You could blindfold me and I could tell you by typing which keyboard is which. And this is not to brag but I much rather I don't have these high standard. Life would be a lot happier.


Tbh the M1 keyboard seems better than my 2012 MBP (and well, better than that clusterfuck or 1st gen butterfly design, but that ain’t saying much anyway).

Maybe it’s age, but the older one feels mushy


To me 2011 has slightly more key travel than 2015, but 2015 and M1+ seem to have about same keytravel but M1 is a lot "crisper". M1+ keyboard seems to uniformly actuate wherever you press it, whereas the shallower keycaps of 2015 keyboard mean that it feels different when you push it from corner vs center.


And I have just realise the 2020 Air is actually on the new scissors rather than butterfly.

So practically speaking you went from old scissors to new scissors.


Well TMY is really efficient for the size, while I've seen hilarious consumption figures for Ioniq 5. Doesn't matter if you charge from solar, but at European electricity prices, TMY is probably significantly cheaper to run.


No, but prospective buyers don't need to worry about ride harshness anymore.


Supposedly. As far as I understand, whether it was fixed or not will be decided by a completely separate group of people. At some point, Tesla can just lie, and don't expect people will be able to verify.

I think Elon found a glitch it tech-bro reasoning: you promise a product, people believe you and buy it, then they realise that it is not what was advertised, but it is OK, because new version has it now, so you can't complain, it is your fault in the eyes of your peers, you should have made a better research or whatever.

Your FSD has almost got you killed? Don't worry, this is your fault, and anyway the bug was already fixed in the update. Probably. This time for sure.


Sorry but its clear you aren't thinking logically.

The changes in the new 2024 version, specifically changed the suspension setup and you can mechanically verify the difference between the models because there were mechanical changes.

You need to drop the FSD rhetoric, there are an enormous amount of Tesla drivers who couldn't care about FSD, but simply enjoying the car as an EV.


You are thinking logically only if you are a shareholder. Then it makes absolute sense to think like that to stay hopeful.

From the consumer POV who doesn't own shares in the brand, it makes no sense at all.

> enormous amount of Tesla drivers who couldn't care about FSD but simply enjoying the car as an EV

Are there an enormous amount of disappointed Tesla drivers as well who stuck with it because of a sunk cost fallacy?

Should, for example, CyberTruck owners who spend 150K on a bullet-proof car be happy that in the new 2026 version the panels finally will stop falling off?

Should the few million people who purchased Tesla Model 3 feel better that the new version finally drives like a car?


All cars have pain points and whilst people in an existing Model 3 might be annoyed ride quality has been improved in the new model, it is good that the specific pain point has been addressed. Afterall you wouldn't stop improving your car simply because you didn't want to annoy existing customers.

Either way, in prior comments you couldn't come to terms with them possibly fixing something like that in the first place.


And what will the prospective buyers need to worry about that the next next version will solve?

Tesla is a low-trust company. Too much grifting


Wow, that sounds like a toxic environment.

I'm also in Europe and here it's completely normal to drive the speed limit. The motorway speed limit in my country is 130 km/h (81 mph). I drive an EV, so I usually stay around 110 km/h (68 mph) for efficiency, which is still faster than all trucks (limited at 90 km/h (56 mph)) and quite a few passenger cars and vans. Most cars drive a bit faster than me (at or around the speed limit) and very few drive faster than the limit (mostly the usual suspects, german luxury cars or sports cars).

I honestly can't imagine being forced to break the law every day just to get to work safely.


In the US, speed limits are set far lower than required for safety, in order to maximize revenue from citations. More importantly, it allows the police to pick and choose who to pull over: When 99% of cars on the freeway are speeding, the police can pull over anyone, and they will use that discretion to pull over “certain kinds” of people they would like to target. Black people get pulled over less frequently at night, when the darkness does not allow the officer to see who is in the car they choose to pull over[1].

1: https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2020/05/veil-darkness-redu...


Do you have a source for that? I’ve heard about something that some twin-props have, but definitely not jets. The engines don’t even run at the same RPM.


https://www.osti.gov/biblio/6356085

It is what the "Sync" switch on the panel does.


Yes, but it seems like no turbofan synchrophaser systems have been implemented yet. Only on turboprops.

https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/71738/is-engine...


21 seconds from click to video in this old neighborhood (50 Mbps) in Europe.


Thanks, now I'll be hearing and thinking about the effect for the rest of my life.


> The motors assist you in raising your leg -- hip extension. That's all they do.

Raising your leg is hip flexion.

Also this device seems to help in both directions: (from their specs page, maybe an awkward translation)

> As demonstrated on the product page, the Hypershell simultaneously drives two sets of leg levers, creating smooth and natural movements in both directions.

> The system produces two forces: one to assist in lifting the leg and another to aid in pushing the leg forward.


> Raising your leg is hip flexion.

Oh, shoot, you're right. Thanks for the correction.

> The system produces two forces: one to assist in lifting the leg and another to aid in pushing the leg forward.

If that's the case, then this model must assist in hip flexion and extension -- helping you raise one leg as it gently pushes back on the other to drive you forward.

It would certainly lower the metabolic cost of walking, but I'm not sure of the magnitude of the effect.


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