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It just keeps baffling me how some bureaucrats think. I first saw this working for the EU as a consultant, but these people actually do believe this. The fact is that the CIA and the NSA have both had leaks that confirmed they were spying on Microsoft, Google, Yahoo's customers before the US CLOUD act even existed. Hell, they were doing it before some of these companies' clouds even existed. And much has been made from the fact that they violated US law to do it (much was made of the scandal that the CIA is supposed to avoid spying on US citizens and leaks proved they didn't do that in the slightest)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vault_7

https://archive.ph/u4DwB

The CIA has been caught doing industrial espionage for US firms. And, the French secret service has had a similar leak.

https://www.economist.com/special-report/2003/06/12/airbuss-...

https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/19930418/1696416/bo...

Only an EU bureaucrat could make a case that states respect the law when spying. I mean, how absurd is that idea?

To make it worse still, France has been caught doing to the same. Their colleagues! And frankly, I'd be deeply disappointed if every EU country and the US aren't currently doing the same to China and 5 other countries right as you're reading this.

In these circumstances, EU bureaucrats apparently are still unwilling to believe that a state would violate laws as they spy. DESPITE their own colleagues doing the same (France violates EU and French law to spy on US companies).

The problem with US spying is not the US CLOUD act. It is using US hardware and software under the effective control of US companies at all. The solution to that cannot be getting a pinky promise, I guess from Trump, that the spying will stop. Even congress repealing that law would mean exactly nothing.



> [...] bureaucrats think.

You have an error in your reasoning.




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