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I don't have a need for secure chat at this moment but if I did ...

I would just find a simple SSH application and give it to all of the chat participants.

Then I would establish a 1U server that I own and control, or even a raspi in my own house, and have everyone log in to run some simple (and old) version of 'talk' - presumably one that has a "wall" feature.

Very simple and very low trust.

Further, the exploit(s) required to infiltrate this are extremely valuable and also hyper specific.

I would have to be an extremely valuable and urgent target for any actor to burn an honest-to-god OpenSSH 0day on ... or a remote root FreeBSD exploit of a system running nothing but OpenSSH.

Bonus points if no ports are open and you have to knock ... which suggests a threat model of remote root vuln on a system with no ports open.

FWIW I have no use for such an edifice.



Yeah agreed but I am just a bit skeptical about the one server as the single point of failure.

Building on your idea, wouldn't using 'talk' over a private yggdrasil mesh (so not connected to public peers) [0] or tinc be an elegant solution ?

What I am not sure is I believe you still need to have at least 1 peer with a fixed IP address (so not a mobile phone) for a yggdrasil to work.

- [0] https://www.complete.org/easily-accessing-all-your-stuff-wit...




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