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You should be outraged at any app that allows people to doxx other people online and say unverified things about them. Slander and libel laws still exist on the internet.


So all forms of communication then? What is the end goal here, present your driver's licence and submit your comment to a Truth Verification Panel to be approved for distribution?


Most things don't have that as their explicit primary purpose.


Exactly. It's one thing to have Whatsapp used by criminals or whatever, and a totally different thing to go out and make an e2e chat app that's like "hey criminals, use this app to facilitate your drug deals!".


That is an unnecessary hyperbole. Most apps to have terms of service and most of them include clauses around doxxing others.


No, an unnecessary hyperbole would be saying people should be outraged at any app that allows unverified communication.


Yes, that's correct.

The thing is, that's not what darth_avocado was talking about. The person that introduced that idea was... you. It's your hyperbole.


If you read the whole thread, the first comment I replied to, that user said exactly that thing.


No. You changed what they said into something stupider.

They said "allows people to doxx other people online and say unverified things about them"

You changed that to "allows unverified communication"

Not the same.


They say no press is bad press, but for a privacy-sensitive app, no press seems preferable.


is it though? Ashley Madison appears to still be going strong


Are they? I don't think I've seen spam pretending to be from them since shortly after that breach they had.


What seems fabricated about the outrage?


I’ve seen multiple posts online posted by guys showing screenshots. The screenshots would show texts sent to those guys by girls saying that they’ve seen the guys on Tea and that they won’t have any more dates because of what they’ve seen. It all stinks to high heaven.


Isn’t that… exactly what the app is advertising? I don’t understand why you think those screenshots are fake.


I think the screenshots are fake because I’ve been using the internet for very long and I know how publicity campaigns work.

For starters, men with hundreds of thousands of followers have no reason to post a screenshot that shows that women have used an app to report them as creeps. That the kind of thing that belongs in a police report, not in a public social network where you’re trying to build your brand.


This automatically assumes that

1. The people being blamed actually did something wrong and thus want to hide it

2. Everyone is optimizing for likes and branding all the time

3. Someone being blamed for being a creep automatically knows the right thing to do in that situation

Seems reasonable to me that someone could post a legitimate screenshot. (Note this doesn’t imply anything about whether they did something wrong or whether the app is ethical, just that the screenshot could likely be real)


>men with hundreds of thousands of followers have no reason to post a screenshot that shows that women have used an app to report them as creeps.

lol have you paid attention the conservative man-o-sphere? Victimhood is a major component. That is, quite literally, the brand of most conservative men trying to build an online presence/brand.


Is it really so unbelievable that such a thing could have happened? Or that men are unhappy about a giant, unaccountable, anonymous libel machine pointed directly at them?




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