I've written a fair few Solid apps. I've never felt the need to reach for 3rd party tools to help manage state. In my experience, solid's built-in signals (& resources) are enough on their own for simple apps. And when I need something more complex, you can build on top of them if you know what you're doing.
If anyone is curious, here's an interactive, editable tutorial teaching how solidjs signals work. If you haven't seen solid before, its similar to react but components don't re-run whenever their state changes:
I agree that Solid signals and resources are robust, but they are still very similar to React's useState and useEffect, and you are basically suggesting to implement your own state management library. Regardless, with React server components, there is no need to manage state on the client at all.
Ah the classic retort. X is merely a broken version of Y. Y has flaws. Therefore X has all of flaws of Y.
No. I don’t accept that. Certainly not prima facie.
Solid isn’t a broken version of react. It’s a fixed version of react. Signals aren’t the same as useState because in solid, dependencies are tracked automatically when you read from them and components automatically rerender as a result. Also because component functions are only executed once, it’s usually pretty easy to just add any state management you want into the body of a component.
At least that’s been my experience with solid so far. I’d love to see a counter example in which these external state management libraries actually add value?
I am not interested in arguing whether state management libraries add value, or how React useState compares to Solid createSignal, but I will reiterate that with React server components, there is no need to manage state on the client at all.
Cant speak for Vue or Solid, but in Angular this has never been a big issue like it is in react. There is state of course but it is not something you have to actively think about all the time. State is kept as properties in classes, directly on your component or (when it needs to be shared) in services that can be injected. Angualar change detection will update the view when needed.
You can argue about the performance of this, but in my experience it is easier on the developer.
