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I was going to write expletives. But lets rather reflect. When is this ICE stuff going to end?





Well, they just got like $170 Billion budget passed, so they've got plenty of money to stay busy for a while.

3x more than the Marine Corps, for those at home keeping score.

A military branch (either de facto or de jure) that exists for the majority purpose to directly target, round up, and imprison or deport individuals on U.S. soil - especially with a proven record of limiting due process - should have NEVER happened. I cannot stress enough, we're a few bad days - and more and more likely 1 executive action away - from at-scale "Tree of Liberty" stuff.


Over what timeframe and earmarked for what?

Let's figure out accurately what scale and scope of damage and harassment is coming.

See also: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ice-budget-big-beautiful-b...


Never? Both parties have voted to fund ICE always. Perhaps if one party or the other was entirely voted out and replaced?

Well, perhaps if there's a Democratic president in four years, and they aren't afraid to break laws as much as Trump does, they could abolish ICE by withholding Congressional funding, destroying it the way this administration destroyed USAID, and reorganize other agencies to pick up the slack, which is how it was before 2003, when ICE was established.

Past performance estimates future results, and it shows that while Democrats don't actively make things worse, they also don't actively make things better. This is illustrated in the "ratchet and pawl model.

When the Republicans are in power they move things rightwards. When the Democrats are in power they don't move things in either direction. The net effect is a move to the right, and you cannot influence that by voting, and the overall rate of movement depends on how often each party wins, which you can influence by voting.

The chance that a third party wins and moves things leftwards is zero.


I don’t believe we will have another free and fair election in this country.

I'm pessimistic about it, too.

When there aren't enough illegal aliens left to warrant it. If you think those people have a right to be there then campaign for that but meanwhile the government should not just give up the rule of law.

> ...but meanwhile the government should not just give up the rule of law.

Isn't due process a rule of law? How about laws against bribery?


The mission creep of the ICE Gestapo will eventually include deporting (forced disappearance and exiling) US citizens who don't agree with the cult^H^H^H^Hadministration.

Source?

Trump himself said he would like to deport citizens.

The self-unware irony...



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