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I want Sam to win more than I do Zuck, just based on the proven negativity generated by Meta. I don't want that individual or that company anywhere near additional capital, power, capability or influence.


The hypocrite who violates everyone else’s privacy to sell ads, or the scammer who collects eyeballs in exchange for cryptocurrency and whose “product” has been banned in multiple countries…

Yeah, there’s no good choice here. You should be rooting for neither. Best case scenario is they destroy each other with as little collateral damage as possible.


Between the trio of Thiel, Zuck and sama I’d pick the fourth option - I don’t want to be on that train anymore


It became clear in 2024 and 2025 that they're all dangerous.

All these tech billionaires or pseudo billionaires are basically believing that an enlightened dictatorship is the best form of governance. And of course they ought to be the dictator or part of the board.


Fourth option is Musk with xAI.


Fourth option is butlerian jihad


At the start of the “LLM boom” I was optimistic that OAI/Anthropic were in a position finally unseat the Big 4 in at least this area. Now I’m convinced the only winners are going to be Google, Meta, Amazon, and we are right back to where we started.


What makes you think so? They got the Chatgpt.com domain and the product seems to be growing more than any other (check out app downloads: https://appmagic.rocks/top-charts/apps). They got the first mover advantage - and as we know around here that's a huuuge advantage.


> They got the Chatgpt.com domain and the product seems to be growing more than any other

And still haemorrhaging money.


I still have hope that Anthropic will win out over OpenAI.

But… Why put Meta in that group?

I see Apple, Google, Microsoft, and Amazon as all effectively having operating systems. Meta has none and has failed to build one for cryptocurrency (Libra / Deis) and metaverse.

Also, both Altman and Zuck leave a lot to be desired. Maybe not as much as Musk, but they both seem to be spineless against government coercion and neither gives me a sense that they are responsible stewards of the upside or downside risks of AGI. They both just seem like they are full throttle no matter the consequences.


Yes, I’ve never seen a more sociopathic company than Meta. They are so true to the cliched ethos of “you are the product.” Sickens me that society has facilitated the rise of such banality of evil


> Sickens me that society has facilitated the rise of such banality of evil

American society. Those are uniquely products of the US, exported everywhere, and rightfully starting to get push back. Unfortunately later than what it should’ve happened.




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