> I don't think you're quite cut out for political discussions. You seem to be very hung up on rhetoric and emotion and unable to really think about how things scale. I don't know how to help you with that. Maybe read some philosophy books and spend more time around different people?

All you have is ad hominem m8. It is hilarious as it is sad.

> I actually know people in two countries with public health care: Colombia and Canada. I've watched both of them use it. It's far worse than anything in the US (the way Colombia in particular treats immigrants IMO is absolutely horrifying.) But if you think you'll get better care in a place like that you should go ahead and see for yourself what it's like.

I've gotten medical care in Malaysia, Portugal, England, Germany, and so forth.

I got into these places with something as simple as a broken nose faster than I'd get through the line at any American hospital. And got better and cheaper care.

You can lie to people who don't have real world experience but not me, buddy. Good luck out there but all you seem to do is lie or use fellow conservatives as sources. I'm not sure which is worse.

The sad fact is, I'd actually want to vote for conservatives but just not US ones that are against my access to health care out of self preservation.

You seem to be convinced I'm some ideological foil to conservatives by saying you shouldn't be able to lie and propagandize. You should probably look inward and ask yourself why you need to lie to people to get through the day.

The sad fact is, outside of local ambulance service in places like Malaysia or Colombia, most of these places have private hospitals for a Westerner that is quite affordable. Yet somehow, just allow them to exist adjacent to public care never seems to cross a cosnervative's mind to admit such things exist. (Hint: They benefit from the same economy of scale as country-wide buying of medication and so forth. Combined with lower labor costs for similar nation-wide markets with guaranteed demand, it actually has been shown to lower costs but you wouldn't ever have researched real information to figure that out)

> That's a little wild to hear from someone who's called me a nazi half a dozen times and seemed to think that changed the validity of his argument.

You agree with Nazi talking points. There, does that make you happy?

>Malaysia They do, its called a golden visa buddy.

>England > No. They do not have a functioning public health service. I don't know much about the other two states but if you put England in that list it makes me question the validity of the rest of it.

Yeah, buddy, please unplug from conservative outlets.

>The sad fact is, outside of local ambulance service in places like Malaysia or Colombia, most of these places have private hospitals for a Westerner that is quite affordable.

> So you're in favor of private health care? I'm still not even sure why you've even brought all this up. Furthermore if you can afford private health care than why is public health care "a matter of self preservation?"

Are you not understanding I basically have to leave to have affordable access to emergency care if Project 2025 (or even the proposals that failed in 2016) gets their way?

Idk what hole you hide in but that has to contain some amazing powers of self-deception.

Good luck, I'm just done man. You can't be this oblivious without hiding in some conservative bubble that bans all dissent.