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I hope people can get a "Stop Using Chrome" movement going, like we did with Internet Explorer long ago.



Maybe even a "start using Internet Explorer again" movement ;-)

For all the hate it got, IE was nowhere near as privacy-invasive as any of the "modern" browsers now, even Firefox. If you configured it to open with a blank page, it would quietly do so and make zero unsolicited network requests.


Well IE (Edge) is Chrome now under the covers.


Your mixing things up Edge and IE are two completely different things


Chrome is fine.

Letting an advertising company own it is not.


I feel like that's like saying "it's fine, except for the bad part that you can't avoid" ;)


The DOJ could literally order their separation. So there's no part of this that's "unavoidable." Ask Ma Bell.


The future of Google as Chrome’s owner is genuinely in question now due to Google’s antitrust losses, in case you weren’t aware.

There’s a few different cases, one recent one Google has lost and is now in the “remedy” phase. Meaning the court has officially decided Google did bad, and is now considering what to make Google do about it. And splitting up Google into separate Chrome, search, etc companies is completely on the table.

Some reading:

https://www.theverge.com/23869483/us-v-google-search-antitru...

https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/google-found-guilty-of-mo...


I'm aware, but it doesn't change day to day choices for now.

I'm also completely at a loss to imagine how chrome becomes someone else's play thing and is somehow less prone to serving advertisers.


Idk, isn't that how we got Chrome? Isn't this inviting someone else to be the new Internet abuse daddy?


No, that was Firefox. Chrome's spread was fueled by literal malware or spyware bundling it to get some of Google's sweet money and some of the most aggressive advertisement campaigns for any online product ever.


Was it Firefox? I remember Firefox existing at the time but I don't think it's ever really had dominant market share, perhaps when it was Netscape? I do remember the IE campaign went on quite a long time to where eventually Chrome showed up to the party and people shifted over as well as shifted their family and friends over. You don't see that kind of active effort for Firefox ever.


According to Wikipedia, Firefox share peaked around 31%. It was very much taking over and gaining share from IE before chrome appeared.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Ol...


Yes, FF was revelatory (features and performance) and, relatively, very popular for a time. 31% was a massive share considering it was up against a browser that was the default for the vast majority of people using computers.

Mozilla have had so many chances to position themselves as the privacy-preserving alternative in current years but just can't get out of its own way in any sense (e.g. corporate greed or being hostile towards users). There's still dim hope for FF and some of its forks, like Librewolf, but hopefully forward thinking projects like Servo and Ladybird can fill the void.


Sounds like something written by a Google employee. Mozilla is a non-profit


Might want to look at who provides most of the funds for Mozilla.


Not for long




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