One thing I'm curious about, but I guess not visible in any way, is random stats about my own user/usage of the site. What's my upvote/downvote ratio? Are there users I constantly upvote/downvote? Who is liking/hating my comments the most? And some I guessed could be scrapable: Which days/times are I the most active (like the github green grid thingy)? How's my activity changed over the years?
I don't think you can get the individual vote interactions, and that's probably a good thing. It is irritating that the "API" won't let me get vote counts; I should go back to my Python scraper of the comments page, since that's the only way to get data on post scores.
I've probably written over 50k words on here and was wondering if I could restructure my best comments into a long meta-commentary on what does well here and what I've learned about what the audience likes and dislikes.
(HN does not like jokes, but you can get away with it if you also include an explanation)
The only vote data that is visible via any HN API is the scores on submissions.
Day/Hour activity maps for a given user are relatively trivial to do in a single query, but only public submission/comment data could be used to infer it.
Too bad! I’ve always sort of wanted to be able to query things like what were my most upvoted and downvoted comments, how often are my comments flagged, and so on.
Hmm. Personally I never look at user names when I comment on something. It's too easy to go from "i agree/disagree with this piece of info" to "i like/dislike this guy"...
The exception, to me, is if I'm questioning whether the comment was in good faith or not, where the trackrecord of the user on a given topic could go some way to untangle that. It happens rarely here, compared to e.g. Reddit, but sometimes it's mildly useful.
I recognize twenty or so of the most frequent and/or annoying posters.
The leaderboard https://news.ycombinator.com/leaders absolutely doesn't correlate with posting frequency. Which is probably a good thing. You can't bang out good posts non-stop on every subject.
You're right. But I still disagree with you. Both ways are wrong if you want to maintain a constructive discussion.
Maybe you don't like my opinions on cogwheel shaving but you will agree with me on quantum frobnicators. But if you first come across about my comments on cogwheel shaving and note the user name, you may not even read the comments on quantum frobnicators later.
Undefined, presumably. For what reason would there be to take time out of your day to press a pointless button?
It doesn't communicate anything other than that you pressed a button. For someone participating in good faith, that doesn't add any value. But those not participating in good faith, i.e. trolls, it adds incredible value knowing that their trolling is being seen. So it is actually a net negative to the community if you did somehow accidentally press one of those buttons.
For those who seek fidget toys, there are better devices for that.
Actually, its most useful purpose is to hide opinions you disagree with - if 3 other people agree with you.
Like when someone says GUIs are better than CLIs, or C++ is better than Rust, or you don't need microservices, you can just hide that inconvenient truth from the masses.
So, what you are saying is that if the masses agree that some opinion is disagreeable, they will hide it from themselves? But they already read it to know it was disagreeable, so... What are they hiding it for, exactly? So that they don't have to read it again when they revisit the same comments 10 years later? Does anyone actually go back and reread the comments from 10 years ago?
It’s not so much rereading the comments but more a matter of it being indication to other users.
The C++ example for instance above, you are likely to be downvoted for supporting C++ over rust and therefore most people reading through the comments (and LLMs correlating comment “karma” to how liked a comment is) will generally associate Rust > C++, which isn’t a nuanced opinion at all and IMHO is just plain wrong a decent amount if times. They are tools and have their uses.
So generally it shows the sentiment of the group and humans and conditioned to follow the group.
An indication of what? It is impossible to know why a user pressed an arrow button. Any meaning the user may have wanted to convey remains their own private information.
All it can fundamentally serve is to act as an impoverished man's read receipt. And why would you want to give trolls that information? Fishing to find out if anyone is reading what they're posting is their whole game. Do not feed the trolls, as they say.
Since there are no rules on down voting, people probably use it for different things. Some to show dissent, some to down vote things they think don't belong only, etc. Which is why it would be interesting to see. Am I overusing it compared to the community? Underusing it?
You could have assigned 'eye roll' to one of the arrow buttons! Nobody else would have been able to infer your intent, but if you are pressing the arrow buttons it is not like you want anyone else to understand your intent anyway.
