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It's hilarious that someone that says it's in Ukraine, "country at war", writes that God bless an state that has brought that same war to hundreds of places in the world. In an article discussing an incident where the country that God should bless killed 290 innocent civilians because they wanted to. Not very different from Russia to me.



What a weird take. Is it really so hard to put yourself in their shoes?

If my country was being attacked and America gave us weapons to fight back I'd also say "god bless America" even though I don't believe in god and I'm very aware of all attrocities America has committed in wars across the globe(and still does). Is that so hard to imagine?

>>Not very different from Russia to me.

Did you think about this sentence for more than 2 seconds before you typed it?


> Is it really so hard to put yourself in their shoes?

So was it really hard for him to put himself in the shoes of the people to whom America did what Russia is doing to his country? I guess being in the same situation would make him to better empathize with these peoples. But maybe not.

> If my country was being attacked and America gave us weapons to fight back I'd also say "god bless America" even though I don't believe in god and I'm very aware of all attrocities America has committed in wars across the globe(and still does). Is that so hard to imagine?

I don't know. What would you think if some random Syrian guy wrote "God bless Russia" in a post talking about the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 which was, allegedly, shot sown by Russian forces in the Dombass?


>>So was it really hard for him to put himself in the shoes of the people to whom America did what Russia is doing to his country?

I've literally addressed it. These two are not mutually exclusive. I'm going to be thankful to the country giving me weapons to fight my invader, even if that country is a scumbag too. That shouldn't be difficult concept to grasp. Do you think Ukraine should be like "uhm no thanks US, we don't want your missiles, we're good". What country under active invasion would do that??

>>What would you think if some random Syrian guy wrote "God bless Russia" in a post talking about the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 which was, allegedly, shot sown by Russian forces in the Dombass?

I have no idea, because I don't see how that's related.


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>>Considering the fact that America’s involvement in Ukraine is the reason Ukraine is in the war to start with?

The only side to blame for invading Ukraine is Russia. Literally no one else. That's not to say US hasn't had involvement in Ukrainian politics - I'm sure they did. The responsibility for the invasion still lies 100% with Russia.


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Your view of history is far from accurate. The "vote" by crimea to leave ukraine was after Russia took over Ukraine in a military action. Voting to secede after someone takes you over and that Russian someone doesn't do democratic voting.

From Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_status_referendum

"The Crimean status referendum of 2014 was a disputed referendum[1][2] on March 16, 2014, concerning the status of Crimea that was conducted in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol (both subdivisions of Ukraine) after Russian forces seized control of Crimea.[3]"


I think you have the order of events there a little jumbled, brother.

Little hard to have a fair vote with little green men standing outside the polls.


This is the old maxima "Divide and conquer" - make two sister nations fight with each other for your own benefits. Then you can always look innocent and blame one or the two fighting parties for their own fight.


And it's also a very convenient propaganda technique used by Russia all the time - "look we didn't really want to do this, it's the foreign interference in Ukrainian politics that made us attack them!". Like, ok, sure - but you are still the ones pulling the trigger.


Ukraine is not sister nation to Russia. This is old Russian propaganda, in reality, Ukraine is old European nation and Russia is Asian (just remember about mummy at center of Russian capital, and think, where at Western country exists something comparable).

Claiming Ukraine sister nation for Russia is not exact same, but similar to claim Israel sister nation to Iran, or Japan sister nation to China.


Russia and the U.S. are both thinking that they are acting in their interests. Russia wants to keep away NATO because they fear NATO will randomly destroy their kleptocracy, and the U.S. wants to weaken nations regularly trying to assassinate citizens in western countries.

The U.S. is 10x more powerful than Russia who is 10x more powerful than Ukraine. Russia falling for the trap of a quagmire on their border is not the fault of the U.S.


U.S. behavior is mostly legacy of British, and partially from continental Europe.

And adequate person might notice, U.S. is practically on the border, between European and Latin American parts of world.

Practically, the same as Ukraine on the border, between Europe and Central Asia.

And this geographic situation is very important, on border you could not be really neutral and weak, you must choose one side and be strong enough to be on this side or you will be divided to sides by some external force.


Russia is very typical Asian country, or to be more strict, typical country of Central Asia, not European, for example, South-Eastern Asia is very different.

And Russian behavior is very typical for Central Asia. Absolutely nothing extraordinary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Asia


> According to one study, the U.S. performed at least 81 overt and covert known interventions in foreign elections during the period 1946–2000.

Read and count, in how many coups involved Russia (unfortunately you may need to use google translate from country of Democracy and free market): ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Советская_республика

And yes, I don't think "Soviet republic" as Democracy, because I've seen USSR and it's pseudo-elections without choice. What they are, you could see in good film Bridge of Spies with Tom Hanks - literally, gangs occupy country and supported by some Communists country - caught on such things Russia, Iran, Venezuela, China.

Ukrainian elections after 2004, ALL considered democratic, if you don't hear from your sources.


Or, life is complicated.


Life is simple, if all need measures implemented on time. And partially, when you could delegate important things to other people, so you don't have to do all important things yourself.

Unfortunately, some important things have not done by Ukraine, some have not done by West, and now we have this huge mess.




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