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Wow, I have an M4 MacMini with a Studio Display and haven't seen that. Hope I don't Jinx it when I get home to use it...

Ha, we gutted our manufacturing base, so if we bring it back it will now be state of the art! Not sure if that will work out for us, but hey their is some precedence.

This is the silver lining in many bad stories: the pendulum will always keep on swinging because at the extremes the advantage flips.

The dollar became the world's reserve currency because the idea of Bancor lost to it. Thus subjecting the US to the Triffin dilemma which made the US capital markets benefit at the expense of a hugely underappreciated incentive to offshore manufacturing.

You can't onshore manufacturing and have a dollar reserve currency. The only question then is, Are you willing to de-dollarize to bring back manufacturing jobs?

This isn't a rhetorical question if the answer is yes, great, let's get moving. But if the answer is no, sorry, dollarization and its effects will continue to persist.


Most people don't care if they feel it helps solve crimes. I doubt it does 90% of the time though.

That's the thing, it legitimately does solve some crimes. And both Flock and the police who use it will quickly trot out some high profile examples. It is one of those classic "if it saves one child it's worth any price" arguments.

Are you OK with being tracked everywhere you go in public so that some bad guys don't get away with their bad activities? Many people are.


Flock cameras are probably the cause of more crime than they solve with all the abuse by employees, federal agencies, and the general insecurity.

It's the wage theft versus retail theft problem, no matter which one has higher 'real' costs, society has decided that one is the 'real' problem that we should prioritize.

Doubt it. Any sources for that?

I am in favor of the flock cameras. Most people tend to behave if they know they are being watched. They have helped reduce crime in the cities they've been deployed in.


That's the good thing about police states, no crime! (except state-sanctioned crimes against humanity of course)

>“Communities rejecting Flock aren’t choosing to be less safe; quite the opposite,” Hamid said. “They are coming to terms with how such a massive, sprawling, and ultimately ungovernable surveillance system puts themselves and their community members at risk.”

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/11/flock-haters-cro...

https://www.wyden.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/wyden_letter_to_f...

https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/wyden-krish...

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/06/flock-safetys-feature-...

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/11/human-toll-alpr-errors

https://www.404media.co/a-texas-cop-searched-license-plate-c...

https://www.404media.co/ice-taps-into-nationwide-ai-enabled-...

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/10/flocks-gunshot-detecti...

https://denverite.com/2025/10/27/bow-mar-flock-cameras-accus...

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2025...

https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/doritos-or-gun - not flock but a dangerous example of AI surveillance camera false positives risking people's lives.

And even with that minimal effort I've already provided about the same quality of sources that Flock corporate does for their claims.


Please cite your source for that. Cities are pulling out of contracts with flock because they lied about who has access to data and there’s been improper access.

You're not really refuting his point.

Cities aren't pulling out of Flock contacts because Flock isn't effective at clearing crimes. They're pulling out because Flock has garbage security, lies about who has/had access to the data, and generally argues in bad faith about all of it.

These are separate concerns.

I think ALPRs with proper access controls, short retention periods, and strict auditing/oversight are a net good. Flock... Not so much.


I don’t think many are. Most are clueless. If you ask just would you mind a camera if it stops a crime sure people would say yes but if you asked it with all the details of what that data is used for beyond solving crime they’d for sure mostly say no.

> Are you OK with being tracked everywhere you go in public so that some bad guys don't get away with their bad activities? Many people are.

If it helps catch 1/10 criminals? or even 1 more out of 100 criminals than would be otherwise caught?

I am. I have nothing to hide. Also, in public, anyone can record you on video without your permission anyway.


> I have nothing to hide

What's your full name and current address? Where do you work? What locations do you frequent in your day-to-day life? Who do you live with and spend the most time with? Can you please list their full names and contact information? Would you mind turning on location tracking on your phone? Once you've done this, let me know and I'll email you so you can share it with me.


Also, what church do you attend? Is it the right one? Who’d you vote for last time? Who do you plan to vote for this time? Is your spouse or romantic partner the right kind of person? Are you sure? What hobbies do you have? What books are you reading? What’s really going on in that head of yours?

We’re going to need bank accounts. Not just the account number and routing number, to validate transaction history against known Terrorist organization affiliated bank accounts but also their login information so we can review credit card statements and so on.

Because they have nothing hide they shouldn’t fear anyone being able to access this information after all.


But Flock doesn't ask for this nor does it gather this information. I know what you are trying to do. You are trying to say this is just the first step to a full invasion of privacy. Except it's not. They are trying to make America safer. They don't want full control of your life. You are taking this example too far to the extreme.

Also Flock cameras just record license plates. Have you ever been to South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore or any other democratic nation with lots of CCTVs? Have you seen the crime rates there? basically 0. I wish we could have those levels of crime in the U.S.


Oh but they do [1][2]!

It's very suspicious that you're being so uncooperative. I'm starting a Flock competitor and we sell our products to law enforcement and private businesses [3]. You seem to be against giving me this data, which feels anti-American and against traditional American values which are clearly afoul of NSPM-7 [4]. This will earn you a label of "potential domestic terrorist" in our database [5]. This, in combination with your "ethnic"-sounding username is enough to gain the attention of our users [6][7], so I suggest you comply to make America safer.

Why don't we start with something simpler? How about just your license plate number, current location, and a photograph of your vehicle taken while you're driving it (ideally along routes which we know you take so that you're not flagged [8][9])? Flock collects this information (along with a history of where that plate was recognized), so surely this shouldn't be an issue?

[1] https://www.404media.co/license-plate-reader-company-flock-i...

[2] https://www.flocksafety.com/products/flock-nova

[3] https://www.flocksafety.com/blog/flock-launches-first-ever-b...

[4] https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/coun...

[5] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46903556

[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavanaugh_stop

[7] https://www.404media.co/emails-reveal-the-casual-surveillanc...

[8] https://apnews.com/article/immigration-border-patrol-surveil...

[9] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46909480


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You nailed it. I'm pro-crime and I enjoy letting criminals get away because I'm a villain in a Marvel movie.

Do you maybe want to consider that "I have nothing to hide" may be overly reductive and that crime, policing, and surveillance are complex topics beyond the binary of "pro-crime" or "anti-crime"? Or will you continue to deflect my requests for your supposedly public data while telling everyone that they should allow theirs to be harvested by unaccountable third-parties to "make America safer"?


Take note, people: this is how right-wing authoritarian sociopaths manufacture consent for a police state.

OP, NB I'm not explicitly calling you a right-wing authoritarian sociopath. That would be disrespectful. I'm just saying you hold the same views and do the same things as a right-wing authoritarian sociopath.

Also, we're all still waiting for you to share your personal details as requested, since you say you have nothing to hide, and are ok with the same details being harvested from others. Your silence speaks volumes about what you truly believe, rather than what you claim to believe.


I mean data brokers already do know all this.

I completely agree with you in spirit but I just can't imagine in 25 years, people won't be wearing spacial computing AR glasses with face recognition and all this is going to be out in the open.

If we were not going to evolve into a total surveillance state we wouldn't be at the state we are now.

We need to learn this lesson from 1984 "Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."


Nothing to hide? Apparently you can be labeled a domestic terrorist for denouncing ICE. Who knows what the next president will escalate to terror. Maybe tofu will be too woke. Congrats on becoming the 1 more out of 100 caught, you domestic terrorist you.

I work at a university and I see that professors routinely try to sneak things by for travel reimbursement. We are stuck in the dark ages and most forms are paper and submitted manually. We are finally getting Concur later this year and am cautiously optimistic.

Didn’t they fire some people from google who were protesting US military contracts a while back?

Who runs their European operations? Is it the Chinese and not Oracle?

I assumed the primary feature of Flatpak was to make a “universal” package across all Linux platforms. The security side of things seems to be a secondary consideration. I assume that the security aspect is now a much higher priority.

It's interesting on my mother's side of the family, most everyone lived well into their 80's and 90's. The execution being for my Mom and her sisters who smoked heavily. Her brothers both died in their 60's but were in the Vietnam war and were definitely exposed to Agent Orange and both had brain cancer. My dad lived until nearly 80 after smoking since he was 12 years old and 2-3 packs per day.

Man, I had one of those in the late 80's. I thought it sounded bad. Turns out you are supposed to use it as a boost for your amp's distortion.

I believe the idea that China’s population was overestimated came out of the COVID vaccine rollout. Supposedly, the central government asked local officials how many doses they needed and then sent money based on those numbers. That gave some people an incentive to inflate the figures to get more funding. Later on, when the government looked at school enrollment numbers, they noticed there were way fewer kids than the number of vaccine doses that had been requested for children.


Yi Fuxian claim gov data showed 140m children were vaxed but there were only 110m kids registered in school, suggesting 30m fake/shadow kids. But school registration does not include 40m kindergartners... which syncs up to 140 gov claim.


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