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> censorship, the suppression or removal of writing, artistic work, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security

It is not the responsibility of the Tier 1 or the ISP to configure your server securely, it is their responsibility to deliver the message. Therefore it is an overreach to block it because you might be insecure. What is next. They block the traffic to your website because you run PHP?

Similar to how the mailman is obligated to deliver your letter at address 13 even though he personally might be very superstitious and believe by delivering the mail to that address bad things will happen.


If everything was on port 443 why would we even need ports.

The ports are there for a reason, it is idiotic to serve everything over http as you would need a mechanism to distinguish the different flows of traffic anyhow.


Preventing the traffic from being distinguished is the whole premise. Port 23 gets blocked because everyone uses it for telnet, and everyone expects bad actors to know that. If everything moves to 433, we'll end up with a variety of routing systems and no focal point for attack. The only alternative is to disallow port filtering in core internet infrastructure.

We can either have a standard and accept that bad actors will use it against us, or we can accept the chaos that results from abandoning it.


You've got it wrong. It doesn't have to be HTTP[S] traffic.

Reverse proxies can disambiguate based on the SNI. I could run telnetd on port 23, but have port 23 firewalled off, and have my reverse proxy listening on port 443 with TLS forward anything going to telnet.mydomain.com to telnetd. Obviously, my client would need to support that, but a client-side proxy could easily handle that just as well.


Yeah, that already exists.

Protocol multiplexing/demultiplexing is a feature of software like sslh, nginx, and HAProxy exist, and they don't need to listen on multiple ports to speak multiple protocols or connect multiple services. Many advanced reverse proxies can do this with stream sniffing of some flavor.

People already do actually run everything through port 443 simultaneously.


Move the community over to a platform where you actually own the server. There are self hosted alternatives. (or pay a hosting provider to run it)

> We as a society need to do something about the unprecedented levels of porn addiction in today's youth. "Enter your date of birth" prompts are performative and do nothing.

I agree, however show your ID is just a "Enter your date of birth" prompt with obfuscation.

Buying alcohol is physical and therefore has some advantages, for example you can be sure that your ID is not copied/sold as you are there and get it back.

In another comment the idea was presented to make a "I am adult" card you can buy (physical like the alcohol). I think that would work a lot better than upload your government id and face to random app/website.

Maybe I'm old school but I was always told "don't make a copy of your ID" by the government, a photo was included in that definition.


have you looked at mumble or teamspeak, seems they where the default for a bit before discord. Atleast for gaming.

Should be yes, however the data (if any) gained is considered "personal data" and should be handled conform GDPR legislation.

If a kid gets in a car and drives without license we don't require all car manufactures to install age verification/license checker do we?

Usually we arrest and punish the offender, not the creator of the product used in the offence.

Why would this be different with the internet, in this case Discord?


Uk, Effective from July 25, 2025, regulated platforms must use "highly effective" methods, such as facial age estimation, credit card checks, or ID verification to prevent children from accessing harmful material, with potential fines or bans for non-compliance. (extents to any platform with user uploaded content)

Australia, as of 10 December 2025 Australia requires social media platforms to take reasonable steps to prevent users under 16 from accessing accounts.

No wonder there where "no real complaints" those countries are already under heavy age verification law.

> Also teen mode doesn't actually seem that restrictive.

Doesn't mean it can't get more restrictive in a few months. Ease people into it would actually be the smart move since there will be less complaints.

> But for whatever reason people seem to froth at the mouth when it comes to discord on here.

Because Discord has not handled their data well in recent memory (actually ever).

Also it is a global rollout not mandated by the countries law. This indicates that it is a business decisions and therefore probably they stand to gain from it financially.


or.... for simplicities sake, everywhere operates the same way. More countries are going to require this, this makes it pretty simple for them I'm guessing, just roll it out everywhere.

they had a breach last year...they didn't leak their core data, the 3rd party they used leaked data to do with age verification. Which was bad. What other data problems you see? Nearly everything else is unconfirmed/scraping public data.

They could make it more restrictive? sure.... but why? a core demographic for them is teens playing games and joining servers related to their games, why would they make it worse for one of their biggest target audiences? Any company who are targeting kids (Roblox did something similar) really do have to show they are doing at least something to protect that demographic. The consequence of not doing that is governments coming after you. That's their financial incentive, not to be shutdown, fined, sued etc.


mumble or teamspeak is pretty easy IMHO.

As far as I know chans are always considered "image boards" and they are usually distinct by the fact that the information is "pushed off" the board after a time or amount posted afterwards.

Image boards, which are a subset of forums, which are a subset of social media.

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