I guess I assumed it’s illegal in that you are using an image to tell a lie in a transaction… like any other kind of forgery - but what i’m actually unsure of is posessing a jpg of an altered drivers license illegal? Seems different than a physical license.
I was referring to the concept of "ceci n'est pas une pipe", and that even just digital forgery of an ID can constitute a crime that can be prosecuted independently from anybody suing.
Of course I highly doubt they'd sue. They either just don't let you in or you abandon them. I'm with the latter.
I’m not a lawyer, but i’d guess that possessing a jpg of a fake id is treated differently under the law than a physical forged id. Once you use it to defraud someone, that’s probably treated the same, but just owning the jpg?
Yeah I agree. There is always some risk about government ID. Long gone the day that ppl could forge one relatively easily, when ID was just a piece of well made paper.
At least where I'm from, the forgery or the possession of a forged ID is a criminal offense in itself, not matter the intent or whether it's actually used.
I'm not sure that photoshopping a dog in place of the portrait would qualify to though. It's immediately obvious that it is neither you nor a valid government issued document so doesn't that preclude it qualifying as forgery?
Yes, it is indeed not always clear what constitutes forgery (Germany).
> A document in the classic sense requires an embodied declaration of intent that identifies an issuer and is suitable for providing proof in legal transactions. In the case of a lawyer's letter, the signature is an essential part of the standard repertoire of authenticity.
So removing some parts to make it _could_ make it safe, to Not create a "risk of confusion":
> Even if computer processing creates the appearance of a genuine document, the typical characteristics of the original must be present to establish a serious risk of confusion. Likewise, the BayObLG did not consider the offense of forging evidential data according to Section 269 of the German Criminal Code (StGB) to be fulfilled.
Off topic, but I love how every country has its weird abbreviations that seem obvious but really aren’t, like BayObLG for Bayerisches Oberlandesgericht (Bavarian State Superior Court) or something close to that. Or how every British cop show assumes its audience knows exactly what a DCI is, as in “This is DCI Foxwaddle and I’m DCI Rugby-Botherington, may we have a word?”
Obviously you can go further: What if you just draw up the whole thing with a pencil? What if it's an ID identifying you as a citizen of Nowhereistan? Where does freedom of artistic expression end and a forgery start?
Again, IANAL, but I suppose it would qualify at least as fraud once you try to use even an obvious fake as "proof of identity" in place of a requested government issued document. In that case, there's an intent to deceive that's hard to deny, even if it's just about age verification for access to a digital platform.
I could imagine in court it might come down to details, like whether it's sufficiently similar to a real ID at a glance, or whether tamper-proof marks of an official ID were copied as well.
In any case I wouldn't want to risk up to a year of jail time over a joke.
I'm sorry to say your conclusion doesn't hold. I'm not sure where exactly you went wrong, without trying to do the math my best guess would be that you just can't properly simulate a far-sight task in a near-sight environment like that. Our eyes don't work that way.
But if you go outside and do a real world test, you'll (hopefully) find that a number plate should be readable from much further away than 20 meters. If you don't, please go and see an optometrist! I'm serious.
20 m is actually a very lenient requirement IMO. In my country, one should be able to read a number plate from about 35 m easily, and with good eyesight, 65 m and more shouldn't be a problem.
The first variants of this type of scam have appeared in Poland some 3-4 years ago on facebook. A poor private business owner had to close his/her/their business due to retiring, or place being devastated after the robbery or by fireworks explosion. And they're in a dire need of selling all their goods at a very attractive prices fast.
There were leatherworkers, tailors, shoe makers, or as below jewellers/goldsmiths
https://old.reddit.com/r/Polska/comments/1ltpt35 - from 7 months ago, this one also comes with a fake review from "Żuromin A." - which isn't even a male name but the name of a small village in northern Masovian voivodeship
Screws aren't cast. And lifting the toolhead takes about .1 second.
What's expensive here is milling this screw head at all, and in particular the surface finish.
This is probably just a prototype for shows, though. At scale, screws heads are usually cold-formed, and this design would work for that, too. If you circular brush the head in the end, you'd get pretty close to this, even if you wouldn't get the finish in the pockets. But that doesn't make much sense there anyway, it'd get damaged by the fastening tool.
In my jurisdiction, it's clear- cut: yes, that would constitute a forgery.
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