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I hate the classic apple users' "mom" argument. Why are all your moms morons? And why do you want to fuck up the entire mobile landscape to baby proof it for them. Im not gonna ruin my experience with technology because you dont expect your mom to be able to wipe her ass without apple's help

This is low even for apple. They havent earned commision on this at all

As they don’t for all the other digital-content purchases they have taken 30% for many years already.

Which is why we have been getting great UX like being unable to buy books in the Kindle app.


They don't mind.

Yeah. Because you'll think you have a flight to beijing when you dont

Oh yeah that bit lol

The harder it is to do, the more the targets guard will be down

In this case, sending your malicious image through a fake email might get flagged, or even not opened by someone whos been trained in infosec enough to be suspicious of these things. But a tracking pixel in an email that is verifiably from a trusted entity will be opened no problem. Type of thing that will look pretty slick if you read about it being used


It works for hard problems when the person already solves it and just needs the grunt work done

It also works for problems that have been solved a thousand times before, which impresses people and makes them think it is actually solving those problems


Which matches what they are. They're first and foremost pattern recognition engines extraordinaire. If they can identify some pattern that's out of whack in your code compared to something in the training data, or a bug that is similar to others that have been fixed in their training set, they can usually thwack those patterns over to your latent space and clean up the residuals. If comparing pattern matching alone, they are superhuman, significantly.

"Reasoning", however, is a feature that has been bolted on with a hacksaw and duct tape. Their ability to pattern match makes reasoning seem more powerful than it actually is. If your bug is within some reasonable distance of a pattern it has seen in training, reasoning can get it over the final hump. But if your problem is too far removed from what it has seen in its latent space, it's not likely to figure it out by reasoning alone.


>"Reasoning", however, is a feature that has been bolted on with a hacksaw and duct tape.

What do you mean by this? Especially for tasks like coding where there is a deterministic correct or incorrect signal it should be possible to train.


it's meant in the literal sense but with metaphorical hacksaws and duct tape.

Early on, some advanced LLM users noticed they could get better results by forcing insertion of a word like "Wait," or "Hang on," or "Actually," and then running the model for a few more paragraphs. This would increase the chance of a model noticing a mistake it made.

Reasoning is basically this.


It's not just force inserting a word. Reasoning is integrated into the training process of the model.

> It also works for problems that have been solved a thousand times before

So you mean it works on almost all problems?


Regardless of how addictive it is? So the same argument applies to heroin? Shoukd heroin be legalized and allowed to be sold outside of schools?

I think the general incompetence in the decision making behind windows is also a driver

Yeah i have fantasies of having my own email server and stuff but the spam detection is probably the 3rd thing that would have me crawling back

I have run my own mail server for years and I rarely see spam. I'm running a classic Bayesian filter as outlined in the legendary PG post "A Plan For Spam" and it works very well. I don't really get all the fuss about this issue. When I do see a piece of unclassified spam I simply classify it and continue. For me this is a far better tradeoff than having all my most private mail on some bigcorp server where any nerd can rifle through it.

> For me this is a far better tradeoff than having all my most private mail on some bigcorp server where any nerd can rifle through it.

You've functionally given yourself very little extra privacy because the vast majority of emails you send or receive will still cross through BigCorp servers (whether Google, Microsoft, Intuit, or other).

You can do the work to run your own mail server, but so few other people do that one end of the conversation is still almost always feeding a corporation's data lake.


I agree with you but I still run my own mail server. If people like me stopped doing that, we would cede the entire email landscape to BigCorp. A sad fate to happen to one of the true decentralized protocols. It's like if we all just went back to AOL

It's more expensive and difficult to hack or get a warrant to access multiple bigcorp servers with a variety of privacy stances and jurisdictions, than it is to get access to a single one. Security is about making attacks expensive.

No single BigCorp employee can go through all my mail.

If you're not convinced, no problem, please continue to enjoy your BigCorp email service.


And yet, if you're communicating with someone else who does the same (or uses a niche hosted provider), that entire conversation is outside their "data lake".

Yes, but such people are so rare that they're functionally non-existent. I certainly don't know even one.

Apart from self-hosting, you can choose a non-big-corp email service, which happens more often. Quite a few of my emails never get to big corps.

And they will become ever rarer when more of those who could do that follow your argumentation.

And this is why I take more and more of what I do offline

As someone who's run my own email for 25 years or so (I'm really getting old...) my biggest problem is not that I receive spam (spamassassin mostly takes care of it) but that my sent emails get marked as spam by big email providers. Yahoo is the worst offender and seems to do so at some base despite my best efforts (spf, dkim, arc, and jumping through their registration hoops)

I'm running my own mail server for longer than I'd like to admit, but not for my critical/key email addresses. Looking at the spam filtering I get in Gmail and knowing my endless fights with spamassassin and DSBLs I know I could never achieve that.

The only upside of having an actual mail server is the ability to say "this is incorrect, no one ever tried to send an email to this address/from this IP" or custom 55x messages.


What a do nothing argument. We know where it is now. Lets quickly afapt to this situation and then we'll adapt to where it goes nexf

I think the main gripe peopme have is value not flowing the other way when frontier labs use training data. I think this poisoning is intended to be somewhat of a DRM feature, where if you play nice and pay people for their data then you gey real data, if you steal you get poisoned


That could be a potential path, but the site doesn’t read like that at all. It seems more binary to me, basically saying ‘AI is a threat, and here is how we push back.’


That is a good point. You'd be interesting to determine the value of any content used as training. I suspect it would be something like 1* 10^-6 cents. I think it'd be much more useful to take some share of the profits and feed it back into some form of social fund used to provide services for humans.


Assuming they ever manage to turn a profit...


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