The government(s) could tax bitcoin mining servers with 1000% tax.

What do you mean nothing would change?

What does "That would just make miners move" mean to you?

Mining is one of the most mobile industries on the planet, see what happened when china "banned" mining, they all just moved somewhere else (or kept mining in secrecy). If it's in the US at least it can be regulated.

Nobody wants this.

People want firefox.

That's like saying, "Nobody wants Adwords; people want Chrome." True but besides the point. Salaries have to be paid somehow.

Some options I can think of for paying salaries:

- Go the Wikipedia route, stay entirely free, and beg for donations on a regular basis

- Start charging for Firefox; or for Firefox Premium

- Use Firefox as a loss-leader to build a brand, and use that brand to sell other products (which is essentially what GP is suggesting).

How would you pay for developers' salaries while satisfying "people [who] want firefox"?

> That's like saying, "Nobody wants Adwords; people want Chrome."

Bad comparison, but I understand your point.

> Salaries have to be paid somehow.

I would be interested in knowing how much of what Mozilla does brings money. Isn't it almost exclusively the Google contract with Firefox?

As a non-profit, Mozilla does not seem to be succeeding with Firefox. Mozilla does a lot of other things (I think?) but I can't name one off the top of my head. Is Google paying for all of that, or are the non-Firefox projects succeeding? Like would they survive if Firefox was branched off of Mozilla?

And then would enough people ever contribute to Firefox if it stopped getting life support from Google? Not clear either.

It's a difficult situation: I use Firefox but I regularly have to visit a website on Chrom(ium) because it only works there. It doesn't sound right that Google owns the web and Firefox runs behind, but if Chrome was split from Google, would it be profitable?

> Bad comparison, but I understand your point.

I'm not sure why you think so; it seems pretty close to me. Chrome and Firefox are exact competitors; both require a large amount of development investment. Neither one are being charged for, which means their development needs to be supported some other way.

The people using Chrome don't want Adwords, but it's Adwords that is paying for Chrome's development. People using Firefox don't want email or Mozilla certificates or what-not, but something needs to fund Firefox's development.

> ...if Chrome was split from Google, would it be profitable?

They'd have to figure out a different business model, wouldn't they?

> They'd have to figure out a different business model, wouldn't they?

Doesn't mean that there exists a business model that would be profitable, does it?

Every time Mozilla CEO changes HN gets a set of "its so difficult" propaganda

Those CEOs get 6M per year and cannot figure out to focus on core product: Mozilla, keep a war chest, dont spend on politics.

Also cut all bullshit projects that are made for self promotion and dont help Mozilla as a browser.

When will real extensions return? Never?

Now they want to kill adblocks too

Where? World?

Chart unsigned? (I think number of sets issued, but you can produce 100m soldiers in 5 sets and 1m in 500 sets...)

Website does not work on mobile..

They dont need to spend millions on other products and politics for start.

That's how the maths works though. If you are a farmer in Africa you buy one scythe for 10 dollars and your productivity increases by 100%

If you are a farmer in Denmark you buy the second tractor and your productity increases by 20%.

Also nothing was planned.

If rhis was planned then USA losing and China winning was planned too. Just globalization meaning everyone goes towards optimum

> Just globalization meaning everyone goes towards optimum

You're a free market fundamentalist.

This isn't an insult. I'm describing what I see. Someone who says "if you don't plan things will turn out the best possible" is a free market fundamentalist.

I am not a fundamentalist. I describe what happens - world is converging due to market forces.

Also free market? China is for example not open - you cannot fully own a company there as an investment.

EU market is converging towards optimum - and countries like Poland are still at 50% of level of Germany

> I am not a fundamentalist.

> Just globalization meaning everyone goes towards optimum

They are doing everything they can to increase number of users before IPO.

Redit from a text based place, became a place driven by pictures (Can we call that "instagrami-zation"?).

The thing, is that discussion is what made reddit good. Now it's mostly low quality pictures, bots and comments written by marketers.

Then AI models and google search are trained on this garbage.

I wonder if someone will finally disrupt reddit

They’ve already IPOed.

Best you can get is Aliens vs Predator vs Terminator comic book (if you are 10 years old you can like it, it is betterr than most AvP stuff but that is a low hanging bar)

I mean the franchise didnt get anything top tier apart from Aliens labirynth and the vP 2 game from.. 2001?

They probably jusr reverted last change?