Orwell said something similar.

George Orwell - What is Fascism? https://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/e...

Would have been nice if the interviewer pushed back more than "lol I don't think they would agree". Spineless.

Spineless seems a bit harsh. The interviewee did open with an unveiled threat of legal action against anyone who disagrees with him.

There was a time when the media would take pride in smacking down some moron who thought they could use the law to suppress speech they don't like.

I heard The Onion still does this

"The media" in general, sure. They often still do. My point was just that one person not doing this in an intimidating 1:1 interview doesn't make that person spineless.

Interesting you went in the opposite direction of my assumption, which was "another member is tired, perhaps we should all pack it it"

AFAIK yawning is something our bodies do to fight or delay sleep, rather than to get to sleep faster.

Because it was never a judgement about who is bad vs. good, but who would be best for American/British interests with zero regard for Iranians.

There were contemporary criticism of Obama's deportation policy on both the right and the left. I have no idea why you think that is some sort of gotcha that somehow makes the equivalency between Obama and Trump's immigration enforcement valid.

Dragonwriter has already laid out some of the differences for you to research further beyond the single data point of number of deportations. You've asked the same question multiple times but seem to not want to actually engage with the answers so I'll leave it there.

People keep telling you that it has nothing to do with the number of deportations, and you keep insisting that it does. Why do you believe the number of deportations is the most important factor?

Copying my other response here:

The core issue is the media. I worked at a large news company in New York during the Obama’s term. There was a training for our reporters: anything negative about Obama was strictly prohibited. Ad revenue.

I don't believe this.

Ok ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ wish I had screenshots or anything, but I don’t.

There is no evidence of this at all.

There is enough smoke to at least perform an investigation. As I said, this administration has deported 10x less people than the previous administrations.

You seem quite narrowly focused on the number of deportations rather than the methods being implemented. The primary criticisms of the current ICE surge in Minnesota focus on the general aggressiveness and lack of professionalism of these agents, not the deportations numbers.

It literally say it is a crowdsourced list... a completely legal activity. If you can't figure out what the outrage is about after Alex Pretti and Renée Good then you're being intentionally obtuse.

1. The outrage had been there prior to their death.

2. Their death is the outcome of the outrage.

Their deaths are an outcome of the heavy handed immigration enforcement that has caused the outrage. The raw number of deportations is not the only metric. The enforcement tactics of the Obama admin are not the same as Trump's, this is obvious and incontrovertible.

You don't have to agree with the criticisms but to not even be able to understand why people are upset stretches believability.

Duh... You're still collapsing cause and context. The protests preceded the deaths; the deaths occurred during confrontations created by the protests. That makes them an outcome of escalation, not the original trigger.

And 'different tactics' doesn’t explain the reaction gap, as i said, under Obama there were 3.1M+ deportations and at least 56 documented deaths in ICE custody (https://www.detentionwatchnetwork.org/sites/default/files/re...) with nowhere near this level of outrage. What changed is media framing and amplification, not the existence of harsh enforcement.

It doesn't have to be the original trigger, you asked "what is the outrage about?" and those deaths are part of it.

> And 'different tactics' doesn’t explain the reaction gap, as i said, under Obama there were 3.1M+ deportations and at least 56 documented deaths in ICE custody

You continuously ask this same question, get an answer, and ignore it. ICE enforcement was not the same under Obama and Trump even if Obama had high deportation numbers. The deaths in that report were from medical issues or neglect. Horrible, absolutely, but not shootings, not American citizens, and not protesters.

Maybe instead of assuming everyone is a stooge that can only do what the media tells them, consider they may actually have some legitimate grievances?

This was also bad, and was criticized by Dem members of Congress along with the mainstream media, and led to the IRS Commissioner's resignation. Hopefully Bondi will too.

At least for Twitch that means they can't give money to streamers making a small country's GDP a month.

Almost all streamers have some thirdparty "tip/donation" system set up (usually streamelements/streamlabs via paypal or stripe, sometimes also giving some TTS effects on stream) so that's still possible.

>streamelements/streamlabs

I tried donating via one of these a while ago and got stopped by a requirement to link a Twitch account. Could you give an example of a donation page on there without that requirement?

I'm pretty sure Twitch/YT handles the payment processing; StreamElements/StreamLabs only provides things like the TTS stuff

They run their own donations platform as far as I can tell, you can add various payment processors: https://streamlabs.com/donations

Should kids be able to buy, say, an athlete's or celebrity's merchandise?

And Jonathan Swift was actually advocating eating children.

Jonathan Swift was a writer and known satirist with publicly known views that were opposite to the absurdist views expressed in his famous satire.

> And Jonathan Swift was actually advocating eating children.

If you're going to engage in satire, its best the satire be obvious.

I believe there are capitalist economist types who believe what Summers wrote unironically.

Also known as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

> there are capitalist economist types who believe what Summers wrote unironically

And Summers himself is one of them- he spent most of his career making things analogous to that essay actually happen

Sorry, did you mean "Summers unironically wrote" or "capitalist economist types unironically believe" ?

Or, for that matter, "I unironically believe"? ;)

From context, GP's "I believe there are capitalist economist types who believe what Summers wrote unironically" obviously meant "I [perhaps ironically] believe there are capitalist economist types who unironically believe what Summers [perhaps ironically] wrote."

The next rhetorical question is: what does it even mean to believe something ironically? Sounds like the sort of grammatical blivetry that would have gotten 17th-century critics up in arms.

> Many times he [Shakespeare] fell into those things [which] could not escape laughter — as when he said in the person of Caesar [...] "Caesar did never wrong but with just cause."