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yes, it very much is. plenty of school age children go hungry, and the school district I used to work for had a major program to make sure poor kids and "Children in transition" (i.e. homeless) were fed at least a good breakfast and lunch.

Given the direction of public school funding, and the sentiment of MAGA shitheels, I expect the problem to worsen.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dawn_of_Everything Disagrees with you, and has several examples of tribal fluidity and more freedom of movement than you imply here.


If you're talking about "the freedom to escape one's surroundings and move away", the book has been widely criticized for that assertion, as Graeber is extremely ideologically motivated.

If you left your tribe without being accepted into another (whether through marriage or some kinds of previous personal alliances you'd made), life would be pretty rough if you survived at all.

Sure tribes would split sometimes when they got too big or disagreements split them. But that's not about the individual level. That's akin to nation-state secession today.

There's no evidence that people were just regularly packing things up and going off and joining whatever neighboring tribe they wanted to, whenever they wanted to. And this is the type of thing where the book has come under such heavy criticism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dawn_of_Everything#Methodo...


Been awhile since I've listened to the book (all cards on the table), so I can't be specific. Nor am I an expert in anyway. My takeaway is that the pre-historical Americas had many diverse ways of organizing people that doesn't quite match up to the implied-risk-game of territory that I was responding too.

In starting to read through some of the criticism's of the book just now, I was reminded of the seasonal hunting parties where many smaller groups would band together for better kills. That's what I mean with "tribal fluidity".

And by freedom of movement, the impression that I had coming away from the listen was that there were many ways in which someone could find themselves in a role where the could migrate through several communities and still live. looking at things again presently, I stumbled across https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopewell_tradition, which I think illustrates what I was trying to convey. "Border sovereignty" doesn't make much sense to me as a concept in that world... i think things were much more fluid. There weren't border checkpoints throughout prehistory.


All academic work is critiqued. It doesn't make it wrong though. Your notion of fluidity is specifically what original poster missed entirely.


I honestly have no idea what on earth the "fluidity" of groups banding together on hunting expeditions has to do with the notion of tribes occupying recognized geographic areas that they don't allow strangers to invade? I don't see any connection at all between the two.


There are definitely a lot of diverse ways of organizing people within a tribe.

And you're absolutely right that tribes could join forces to accomplish objectives. And the Hopewell tradition is mainly about trade and cultural dissemination -- of course trade involves traveling with goods to other tribes.

But none of that changes my point. Even if tribes allied for a purposes, they still had their distinct geographic areas. If if people traveled to other tribes to exchange goods, they were just visitors traveling through.

"Border sovereignty" was absolutely real, just as it is in primates. There weren't literal manned border "checkpoints", but you can be sure that as soon as a tribe got wind of a stranger approaching, they'd immediately investigate and either allow them in (if e.g. someone friendly temporarily traveling through) or send them back in the opposite direction with force if necessary. The idea that the norm was that some stranger could just waltz in with their family and they'd be welcomed to stay and share the land is not supported by evidence.

(Even though that's definitely the anarchist ideology that Graeber was trying to push in his book, because that's exactly where he gets criticized for ignoring most of the evidence and cherry-picking examples.)


I don't think we will agree here. The statement that "The whole concept of nationalism and border sovereignty has been with us for essentially all of human history" is not something I can get down with unless its better supported. The territory you are describing is not all the same thing as national territory to my mind, and your arguments are not convincing.

> they'd immediately investigate and either allow them in (if e.g. someone friendly temporarily traveling through) or send them back in the opposite direction with force if necessary.

Was there never the case that they investigated, saw that the strangers were floating down a river on the border of "their territory" and simply let them pass through unmolested? That doesn't happen today, and my intuition is that was simply so much space in the americas before recorded history that it happened often then.


I was refuting the refutation by tomrod.

I didn't say that the nationalism and border sovereignty that exist in 2025 are exactly what prehistoric humans practiced. That would obviously be absurd.

What I said was:

> Tribes generally lived in specific areas, and would go to war with other tribes if those tribes tried to expand into their turf. Or would go to war to expand their turf. That's basically the early version of nationalism and borders, with the tribe as the nation

In other words, we have the same instincts operating whether it's with a group of 300 people or 300,000,000. People occupy a geographic area and call it theirs and control who can live there. Many primates do the same.

And is your case of someone traveling down a river trying to contradict me? My example was of that being allowed if they weren't threatening. And the modern equivalent would be something like like a transit visa or connecting international airports.

I really don't know what you're arguing. We're not talking about people traveling anyways, the subject is whether tribes would just let random people come in and share their land. They didn't. They had a concept of group sovereignty, the same idea as national sovereignty, and of land they occupied.

If you want to insist that modern national sovereignty and borders drawn on maps are completely and utterly unrelated to tribal sovereignty and tribal borders -- if you don't see the obvious similarity, the same human group instinct and human territorial instinct -- then I really don't know what to tell you.


Last time i checked you were giving out blank checks. We live in a society


I’ve seen some BilliSpeaks videos that absolutely convince me cats have more language capabilities than previously thought.

When you say “convincing” what are you looking for? Do you think these youtubers are just using editing tricks and traps to convince a gullible internet? Genuinely curious.


I assume they need convincing in the way it proves pets can communicate complex language or it is just the owner interpreting whatever they want


> pets can communicate complex language

Who was even trying to push this narrative in the first place?


the first comment: "complex constructions and grammar"


Cats don't talk in complex ways to owners. Listen to what a male cat vocalizing while trying to woo a female cat. They have something to say and a means to say it. They don't need that kind of communication for reminding the food dispenser what time it is.


That's exactly my thought, it is no different than teaching my dog a trick for treats


Left and right aren’t directions, they are regions


If you feel this way, i recommend you go visit alaska; even just hiking hatcher’s pass on a good day outweighs crater lake in beauty for me.


This is the EV equivalent of riding your old motorcycle with the reserve valve open the entire time.

You are driving a giant killing machine around... it isn't too much to ask that you have some foresight to avoid the situation you describe.


Yet life happens and weather isn’t always exactly predictable. Why you against better batteries?


I'm not against better batteries. I'm against people who choose to operate with such a small safety factor for something as serious as operating a giant rolling 2 ton piece of metal and volatile chemistry. Just like I'm against people who don't know how to change a tire or properly drive with etiquette on the interstate; If you can't do it, you kind of deserve some teasing.

In my friend group, if you run out of gas you get made fun of. You forget to flip your kill switch and can't crank your motorcycle, we all laugh and call you a dipshit.

Getting stranded isn't always harmless, and proper adults don't get stranded. Proper adults manage their vehicle safely. That's my point. Yes, exceptions are allowed, but we need to make sure everyone knows they are exceptions. Don't leave 5% on your battery when in the freezing seasons, it's improper.


> I'm against people who don't know how to change a tire

TBH that's majority of people. And it's a good thing since tyres got so good.

I get it tho. It's obvious. But it's better when things work better.


It's not obvious because you're still making the excuses for baby-adults. No one is saying battery tech should stop being developed, nor should pain points be unaddressed.


This is just a puff piece profile of chris lattner and had few redeeming passages before i quit and decided my time was better spent elsewhere.


> This is just a puff piece profile of chris lattner

It's actually not. But it is exactly the sort of low-effort-high-volume junk that Medium "bloggers" became known for churning out and ultimately resulted in large swathes of the thinking public putting Medium in the same mental bucket as Quora.

A process that is now repeating with Substack.

Only this time with more LLMs (in two ways: use of and content about).


better spend your time well


Part of the problem with these degens is their attitude that downvotes mean they are over the target.

This dude is just ignorant with, near as i can tell, asmongold on your brain and breath. His mistakes aren’t worth refuting, but I’ll give them one for free : despite the claim otherwise, it is in fact possible for Americans to go south to Mexico and live, and Mexico City is itself going through somewhat of a gentrification problem by gringos from the north. Channel 5 covered it recently: https://youtu.be/Oti0eNxLxyQ?si=JJqiQ3kiO46YxDSf

We all saw ICE laughing while they pepper balled a priest in the head. No one voted for that.


>We all saw ICE laughing while they pepper balled a priest in the head. No one voted for that.

70+ million of you voted for exactly that.

Everyone saw exactly who and what Trump was during his first term.


They can't just go there and live. I assume most of the gringos there are legal? Yet somehow Americans uniquely tolerate illegal border crossing and illegal overstaying. (Not American myself)


Fwiw, i have the opposite experience of napping. Napping adds to mental fog for me especially for the hour immediately after napping. Its not until several hours later that i actually experience any loss of mental fog or increase in clarity.


It probably depends on how much sleep you're lacking, and how long the nap is.

My experience after sleeplessness nights is that even few seconds help significantly, especially when you're almost unable to function anymore.

If the nap lasts longer than 30 minutes, though, you have a good chance of feeling groggy afterwards.


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