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I feel uncomfortable labelling nebulae as collection of stars. The more appropriate term is stellar nursery if you want to allude to their role in star formation.

They themselves are just clouds of gas and dust where protostars have begun to form.

Stellar clusters are what you would call a collection of stars.

Also on the note of cosmology and astrophysics being strikingly young fields, I think that's fair statement if we consider their modern definitions. Although their core ideas have already been discussed in a lot of ancient civilizations. It was a lot more philosophical and less rooted in science though (except for the observational astronomy, which remains perhaps one of the oldest scientific discipline).


Sorry, yes, there’s a terminological disconnect here: M31, say, is the “Andromeda Galaxy” to us, but the “Andromeda Nebula” to Hubble’s contemporaries circa 1920. The recognition that at least some of the cloudy (nebulous, literally) stuff in the sky is galaxies (and that the universe fits more than one) was the very point of the fight I mentioned. The world before it was thought to be drastically smaller in a way that I find difficult to think about.

That's right. Historically, nebula was anything that looked cloudy, so a lot of astrophysical objects that we now understand are distinct, were simply labelled as nebulous. M31, as you said, being a great example.

Modern astrophysics still carries the baggage of obsolete terminology to this day, from names of objects to names of units.


Not a geologist either but an astronomer. Never heard that tectonic activity has any association with proximity to equator.

Mountains can rise higher near equator because you have the least gravity there. The whole Earth bulges along the equator. But I don't think it's measurable.


While Everest (8849m) is the highest point above Sea Level, Chimborazo (6267m) in Ecuador is further from the centre of the Earth (about 2000 metres further), due to the equatorial bulge. It's very measurable.

Well that's not what the claim and clarification was about. The question was: can a mountain rise higher in the equator as compared to higher latitudes?

It is not about highest point from centre of Earth. That's is related to equatorial bulge but irrelevant to the discussion.


It's also interesting because the radius of curvature is smaller, meaning the distance to the horizon is shorter north south, and a lot of these views are north south. So the increase in mountain height more than overcomes the other effect!

Woah, I've been thinking about this whole project for so long, but never considered that!

Are we saying line of sights are not symmetric? Why not?

The earth is an oblate spheroid to an approximation. It's not that they're not symmetric, but at the equator the north south axis has higher rates of curvature than anywhere else (but the east west has somewhat lower rates because of the larger circumference due to the bulge).

So that large lines of sight are near the equator on a north south axis (or symmetrically south north) is crazy because the high rates of curvature in that direction at those latitudes should give the shortest distance to the horizon on earth, making those lines of sight even that much more impressive!


Something that looks and sounds impressive but in the end not of much substance.

This will be true for next 2 years, 4 years, next decade, few decades. Until the state of the art ML paradigm remains language models.


Weird analogy. This makes sense if you liken this automatic editor to a LSP or compiler of the language you're writing in.

The more I read about things like this more I realize that software engineering today's just bloat and grunt work that people want to escape.

It's so ironic because computers/computer programs were literally invented to avoid doing grunt work.


I agree. But I do have some concerns. Sometimes the LLM writes code and its a lot of work to go through it. I get lazy and trust LLM too much. I've been doing this for a while so I know how it should write, I go back and try to fix or refactor. But a new dev might direct LLM to write code they might not understand. Like a blackbox. LLM makes a lot of decisions without you realising, decisions which you used to make yourself. Writing code is making thousand decisions.

To be fair a lot of bloat and gruntness are safety nets we built for our own benefit. Static typing, linting, test harnesses, visual regressions, CI etc. If AI to do the legwork there while I focus on business logic and UX, it's a win-win.

I see this retort pasted everywhere. What exactly are you referring to? I think it's fair to assume any competent person never spends their brain in what may be considered as rote in the first place. If one was doing that, well it's unfortunate.

I just keep coming to the conclusion about devs who use agents or other AI tooling extensively: these are programmers who did not like to program.


> Open source" is no longer about "Hey I built this tool and everyone should use it".

Was open source ever about that? I thought it was "Hey I built this tool and I'm putting it on internet if anyone wants to use it" often accompanied by a license saying "no warranties".

> It feels like pretty soon, no one is going to just have a bunch of apps on their phone written by other people. They're going to have a small set of apps custom built for exactly the things they're trying to do day to day

I think today's AI tools like Agents are for people who are programmers but don't want to program, not ones who aren't programmers and don't want to program. As in, "no one is going to..." is a very broad statement to make for an average person who just uses apps on thier phone. Your average person will not start vibe coding their own apps just because they can (because they couldn't care less).


Half the comments on this forum itself have this incessant it's not X, it's y" pattern.

i would think humans would start writing in a way that doesn't scream ai generated writing by now, or perhaps the internet is truly dead


I have it in print. As part of Isaac Asimov: The Complete Stories Volume 1 (Published by Harper Voyager)


For the sake of completeness: That Harper Voyager complete stories volume 1 is now also sold as "Living Space and other stories", just bought it in that version.


Thanks, just went and bought it!


It's a great collection. Do check out "The Dead Past" as well (it's the first story in the version I have).


I don't think what should be neutral account of factual events should take into account if it would be rude to an individual.


There's no such thing “as neutral account of factual events”, it's a “map and territory” thing, you always have to weight if something is relevant and this is always a subjective exercise.

And then you have to ponder the relevance with whether or not publishing may cause harm.

Let's take an example, unrelated to the topic: why aren't the addresses of stars, or the identification number of billionaires personal jets, listed on Wikipedia? Because it's not relevant, and can be harmful.

And it's the same thing for trans people's name. Most of the time, their birth name is irrelevant and can even be harmful. But sometimes, when it's important, the name will still be there, with the redirection and all, see https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning

And, by the way, this isn't a Wikipedia thing, this is how press right works! Newspapers get sued all the time for mentioning irrelevant personal information about people, and lose.


Your examples are not equivalent at all. Why do you think the person was bullied? It's additional information that makes the picture clear, which is the purpose of an encyclopedia.

Any information which is relevant to the subject of article and brings clarity should not be censored, ideally.

Also if you could understand what I'm saying, you would realise I'm not asking to put birth names of every trans person with a wikipedia article in their article. Because it's not relevant.

You keep mentioning "harm" but never exactly describe what harm? What more harm can you imagine for a person who committed suicide due to bullying?


It is not known why she committed suicide, as she did not leave a note. Bullying is unlikely to be the full picture. What most accounts of her life omit is the considerable trauma she experienced as a young child: she was repeatedly raped by her father, a crime for which he was arrested and convicted.

The Wikipedia article skims over this, instead focusing on the trans and bullying aspects. This will have been a deliberate editorial choice as well.


Thanks for more context. Yeah the article seems very neutered (I think it's fair to say lying by omission, especially to me who just learn about the incident through this thread/this article). I think that's the whole argument. Wikipedia is not news and you cannot get first hand full context picture from it.

Instead, like everything else, it's another opinionated aggregator of information.


> Why do you think the person was bullied?

Because they weren't behaving as their surrounding wanted them to. The reason was given in the article. You don't need to know the birth certificate name of that kid to talk about that.

In fact, the very people asking the most loudly for using this name are the crowd that bullied them alive.


I got some additional context from another reply. Your replies are vague and don't clear things for me. Just like the article.

In your earlier reply you said relevancy of something was subjective. No. Inference of facts from given information by each person may be subjective. But the information itself, must never be influenced by the subjectivity stemming from the information provider.

I get that revealing some information which maybe considered sensitive will be used by awful people. But that doesn't apply here. You cannot withhold information on the pretense that it will be used maliciously. Otherwise it's no different that dystopian stories of catching criminals before they commit crime.


> Otherwise it's no different that dystopian stories of catching criminals before they commit crime.

This comparison is so lazy it convinced me to step out of this discussion.

Good day.


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