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The negativity in this thread is amusing. I can’t take HN seriously anymore, you guys crack me up with your flimsy outrage and dramatic monologues.

I’ll be upgrading to Win 11 and activating it with an internet connection. And I won’t think twice about it.


Looks like everyone gets the OS they deserve.

Did you miss the quotation marks around “upgrading”?

Good for you?

I can’t not see Catbert in the video player iconography. Someone tell me they did this intentionally.


The icon is supposed to represent one of those waving cat figurines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneki-neko

It has some long tradition placing those visibly on the podium. As the story goes, the idea is that you can immediately see if the video stream freezes up (because the cat in the video suddenly stops waving). You wouldn't immediately catch that in between talks (when you have some time to fix the issue) if the camera was just pointed at an empty stage with no movement. I think at 30C3 or so, I saw one that was placed so that it would repeatedly knock on the microphone as well.

Anyway, the waving cat has become a bit of a meme by itself and mascot of the VOC, hence also the (animated) icon in video player.


Thank you both!


It is a Maneki-neko (beckoning cat / Winkekatze). The video team started putting them on podiums so they could see when a stream was frozen. So it became kind of a mascot.


The discussions in this thread are amusing. It’s a pretty great beginner guide. Almost a parallel to “how to ask questions the smart way” applied to videos.


Take George Hotz as an example. He’s not in this thread and I doubt he wants to swing his massive dick but he’s a poster child for a pattern that comes up. Here are a few.

- Precocity and curiosity. Access to tech, resources, ways of actually getting answers instead of just hypothesizing. Though a curious mind will always conjure theories of all sorts.

- Working on an assortment of devices. Recent, old. Take them apart, ask how do they work. Read up about how they are constructed. Repeat.

- Robotics. Dead give away because robotics means embedded and embedded knowledge is gold. As is electronics knowledge among all the knowledge of how sensors actually work and what they do. You don’t wake up knowing how software and hardware interfaces. Along with learning this you learn a ridiculous amount regarding protocols, tools like logic analyzers and oscilloscopes, and patterns that repeat again and again. [0]

- Free time. This one is a given. This shit takes too long and all you’ve got are hunches along the way.

Take the recent CCC presentation on Miele appliances. The young presenter practically gives the punch line away: he fixes his parents’ house appliances, he rummages forum posts looking for information. He reads data sheets of processors and knows what pin does what. He looks at what others have done and wonders “what if?”. His whole presentation was so textbook and the appliance is an early 2000s model that it’s begging for someone with a shred of curiosity to take it apart and learn how it works. He finished by successfully dumping the firmware even when he thought it couldn’t be done. Along the way his “hunches” show he knows how things work because he’s worked on it before. The only people surprised are people who haven’t done it. He was going to succeed before he began - that’s how prepared you need to be.

Now, if you’re not a super talented 12 year old, that’s okay. Start programming microcontrollers and get comfortable with reading voltage levels and signals of GPIOs and peripherals. Learn how your firmware gets loaded at startup. Build some basic protocols and confirm on a logic analyzer. Decode your work with your eyes. Reading binary and hex should be second nature. Read and decode a USB protocol. An SPI protocol. And don’t complain it’s too much work.

[0] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C1C-DrRZAfw


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