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The more common term you're looking for is "ultra-processed food"

Which types of processing exactly is implied by that, and which are not?

Where's the line drawn, is ground beef ultra processed or not? how about a chicken schnitzel? canned sardines? dark chocolate?

Which part of the ultra-processing is making the foot unhealthy, is it chemicals they add? the fact that they heat it up (but at home when you cook you also heat up stuff)? something else they do with it?

If you bake fries yourself from potatoes with olive oil, is it ultra processed?


The term comes from the Nova classification.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_classification


> Ultra-processed foods are operationally distinguishable from processed foods by the presence of food substances of no culinary use (varieties of sugars such as fructose, high-fructose corn syrup, 'fruit juice concentrates', invert sugar, maltodextrin, dextrose and lactose; modified starches; modified oils such as hydrogenated or interesterified oils; and protein sources such as hydrolysed proteins, soya protein isolate, gluten, casein, whey protein and 'mechanically separated meat') or of additives with cosmetic functions (flavours, flavour enhancers, colours, emulsifiers, emulsifying salts, sweeteners, thickeners and anti-foaming, bulking, carbonating, foaming, gelling and glazing agents) in their list of ingredients.

They have a different definition of "no culinary use" than I do!


Earlier in the definition it uses the more conservative phrase "no or rare culinary use," which I think is more accurate. The point is just to attempt to categorize foods by processing levels in a way the public can understand.

I am curious what items in the list differ for you. When's the last time you grabbed your isolated fructose and maltodextrin to season your steak?

The way I think of it is if I were to cook a chicken breast or bake a loaf of bread and then write down the ingredients, they'd be chicken, oil, salt, pepper; or flour, water, yeast, salt. Now go look at the ingredients of a chicken breast (raw, marinated, or cooked) and a loaf of bread in the grocery store and note the differences between the ingredient list. If the ingredient list for an item from the store includes things a household wouldn't have at home, like fructose or maltodextrin, that item would be considered ultra processed.

I'll note that I don't eat as healthy as I should, people should do what they want, and it's possible to still be unhealthy while avoiding ultra processed foods.


Thanks for linking that. Their rubric for ultra-processed is easy enough to grok that folks could use this at a grocery store. We're on a kick to remove "parameters" from tasks right now, so this definition is clearer than thoughts like "stick to the outside of the store."

Reducing the parameters on tasks, and eliminating tasks has been a huge win for us. Tranquility, and still results.

This is venturing off-topic, but can you expand on "eliminating tasks." Is eliminating a task like setting up auto bill pay, or getting rid of items that I don't want to clean?

Same! Still good that you can get 4% on a risk free investment these days

Or put another way, your income is depreciating at at least 4%.

Yes


Spot on, device tracking is much better than wifi sensing


Until you TLS a tcp connection of course


Oh can you comment on what this means? I'm not too familiar with it. Thanks!


BSL is a source-available license that by default forbids production use. After a certain period after the date of any particular release, not to exceed four years, that release automatically converts to an open source license, typically the Apache license.

Projects can add additional license grants to the base BSL. EMQX, for example, adds a grant for commercial production use of single-node installations, as well as production use for non-commercial applications.


Nice! What optimizations have you put in llace yo support 150 mil? Just some indexing or other fancy stuff?


You don't need to optimize anything beyond appropriate indices, Postgres can handle tables of that size out of the box without breaking a sweat.


> Postgres can handle tables of that size out of the box

This is definitely true, but I've seen migrations from other systems struggle to scale on Postgres because of decisions which worked better in a scale-out system, which doesn't do so well in PG.

A number of well meaning indexes, a very wide row to avoid joins and a large number of state update queries on a single column can murder postgres performance (update set last_visited_time= sort of madness - mutable/immutable column family classifications etc.)

There were scenarios where I'd have liked something like zHeap or Citus, to be part of the default system.

If something was originally conceived in postgres and the usage pattern matches how it does its internal IO, everything you said is absolutely true.

But a migration could hit snags in the system, which is what this post celebrates.

The "order by" query is a good example, where a bunch of other systems do a shared boundary variable from the TopK to the scanner to skip rows faster. Snowflake had a recent paper describing how they do input pruning mid-query off a TopK.


That’s not the fault of the DB, though, that’s bad schema design. Avoiding JOINs is rarely the correct approach.


You really don't need anything special. 150M is just not that much, postgres has no problem with that.

Obv it depends on your query patterns


This is 100% it


Very nice! Going to check it out over the weekend.


Honestly, it's the sound. If you live close enough, it will drive you insane.


A buddy of mine has two on his property, one within a stones’ throw of his house and barns. Not only does the sound not drive him insane, I couldn’t hear it (at all), nor any of the other ~600 in the area.


It depends a lot on geography and (obviously) winds in the area.

I can assure you that it's very real, and very harmful on a daily basis.


No, it won’t. This myth was started in the 2000s by Nina Pierpont who was looking for reasons to oppose wind farms near her property but it’s been studied repeatedly and there’s no credible evidence of any significant impact. Roads are at least as noisy, and have other forms of pollution, but I’ve never seen the same people call for banning cars.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-025-04645-x


Right, so people who claim to have this experience are lying, for no good reason.

While people who have a lot to gain from hiding problems with wind turbines are telling the truth.

Isn't that always how it works?


All of the people advancing those claims also think they have a lot to gain, too. Those claims are hard to evaluate because humans are famously subjective and prone to misattribution, which is why we invented the scientific method. Every high-quality investigation has been unable to find support for them.


This is why many people don't trust "The Science". It's the positivist materialist institutionalist gaslighting. If the conflicted institution hasn't published the opinion or the measurements then it doesn't exist. Don't believe your lying eyes or ears. If you notice somethingnot published, you are automatically wrong. All whistleblowers must be discredited.

Isn't this a tactic of con artists & cult members who have much to gain from public perception & policy?


> If the conflicted institution hasn't published the opinion or the measurements then it doesn't exist. Don't believe your lying eyes or ears. If you notice somethingnot published, you are automatically wrong. All whistleblowers must be discredited.

It’s striking how many wrong things are packed into that paragraph. Science isn’t trustworthy because of the institution, but because it challenges its theories and anyone can review and repeat it. In contrast, the claims being made here started from someone’s belief that they have a financial benefit to not having windmills nearby and work backwards to construct a supporting narrative.

> If the conflicted institution hasn't published the opinion or the measurements then it doesn't exist.

More accurately, we’re asking for those measurements so anyone else can review them. We’re asking for the methodology so anyone else can review or replicate it. Emotional reactions like yours tend to be a great sign that someone has a strong interest in a particular outcome and humans are notoriously bad at critically evaluating things they want to be true. Scientists are no different, which is why they put so much effort into looking for ways to test their work.

A great similar example are the “electromagnetic hypersensitive” people who claim to have all kinds of health problems caused by wifi or cellular signals. They’ll claim that they’re not being taken seriously because they’re starting backwards from the position that their health issues are caused by EMF and anyone who disagrees is “suppressing” them. The problem isn’t “lying eyes and ears” — their headaches or sleep problems are real - but that they have made a wrong explanation part of their self-identity and are unwilling to reconsider that. Repeated double-blind studies have shown that these people can’t identify EMF at better than chance, and that they’ll report health issues caused by EMF which never existed, and that’s a tragedy because there is a real cause they’d likely be able to find if they were willing to give up on that theory. Many of the wind power opponents are arguing in bad faith trying to make their aesthetic tastes sound scientific but I’m certain that some of these people have real, non-psychosomatic medical issues which are not caused by turbines but could be localized if they put their effort into broader investigations.


So what are the sources for people driven insane by it?

(I have no opinion, but find it mildly suspicious given that I happen to sometimes drive through Germany, and the country seems to be currently less insane than, say, US)


>Don't believe your lying eyes or ears.

This as a sarcastic rallying cry of conspiracy theorists has always amused me.

You ARE aware of visual and auditory illusions right? Or the various ways your brain outright lies to you in order to save a few calories worth of thinking?

How much of your vision is real? Do you know? Can you prove it?


I moved to a house that has the main road on my side. I do not wish it to anyone. I cannot stand noise, and I hear cars 24/7, ambulance at least 10 times a day if not more, and they turn on the siren even at 3 am when there is no traffic because of some specific laws.

I also got a cat (against my will, but gotta take care of her) who wakes me up around 4:30-06:00. :|

I cannot stand the noise pollution. It makes me want to live by the countryside even more.


How close were you? I’ve been on a campus with a wind turbine, don’t recall any sound. But I didn’t get directly under the thing.


I used to live down the hill from 1, and 99% of the time could hear nothing. But on a lucky day when the wind was in the right direction and right strength, you could just hear a faint woosh woosh woosh.

Personally I liked the sound. But we only had 1, so maybe different with many more. Though never heard the wind farms I've stopped by.


Wind, and moving shadows when the sun is behind them.

I find both annoying to live with daily.

And it's not like its a problem that couldn't be solved; I like the idea of wind turbines, just not at any cost.


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