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Wow. I did enjoy putting it together, but I did not expect 'on of my favourite of all time'. Thank you.

As a critique my own work, I think it feels like a bit of a sales piece on the company and the culture, although that it is an accurate account of what the participants were saying. I also wanted to show that the aggressive commodified start up culture that seems to have been adopted is not the only way to succeed in tech. I think that was the most important message that I was trying to get across.


I thought it came across as genuine and reflected the sentiments of past interviews with I.P. Sharpers without the tint of rose colored glasses (as these interviews were made at the time).

As someone who has spent quite a bit of time in the lousy job market the last two years, the thing that stood out to me most was the philosophy of having an open door and allowing people in to see if they are a good fit (and ultimately allowing them make that decision for themselves). While I’m not sure if the interview-by-light-meter holds up, I can’t say that I feel that tech interviewing, as practiced today, holds up either.

Thank you so much for your work on this, Bob! I’m sure you spent a lot of time on it, and it really shows. Wonderful job.

P.S. Did you happen to come across the article with Professor Weizenbaum that Iverson quotes in the interview with Whitney Smith? I’d love to read it.


In spite of having the surname Therriault, I have only high school French, but this article would have been about the right time and publication for the Weizenbaum quote. http://referentiel.nouvelobs.com/archives_pdf/OBS0995_198312...

I am not sure where the English translation would be, but being Canadian it would not surprise me if Dr. Iverson was able to translate it himself.


The English translation that Iverson mentions was in Harper's magazine. Iverson says it “was a report of an interview with Professor Weizenbaum,” so I’m not sure how complete it is.

In spite of having developed Harper’s first Android application, I no longer have a subscription to the back catalog, but perhaps I can put my library card to use!

Thanks for the link to the French article.


Special thanks to Bob Bernecky and Whitney Smith for preserving this archival material and making it available to our podcast.


Although we do make the content available through text, as the editor of the episode I think there is a great benefit to hearing Dr. Iverson speak. The nuances of his humour and the warmth of his personality can not really be captured in text.


Some people have diminished auditory capabilities.


Yes, we create written transcripts for those folks with diminished auditory capabilities because we think that it is important to be as accessible as possible. In fact many who do not have auditory challenges choose to read instead of listen. That is their choice.

My previous comment was directed to those who are in a position to have a choice in their media consumption and might not realize what they could be missing by reading the transcript.


I was really impressed with how open Chris Krycho was about his struggles without playing the blame game. CoRecursive is one of my favorite podcasts because it explores the complex context behind the code.


Agreed. And I also think Adam is a great host. He asks good questions and lets the guest talk.


He seems like the kind of guy I'd like to work with, personally.


Air Canada - We're not happy until you're not happy.


Sadly, John Scholes passed away in 2019. https://aplwiki.com/wiki/John_Scholes


Sorry to hear that, but very glad to have run across http://dfns.dyalog.com/downloads/howcomp.pdf as a result...


Our upcoming episode is an interview with Kai Schmidt, the creator of Uiua. It will be published this weekend. It turns out that Kai is a fan of the ArrayCast and it was his introduction into array programming.


Ah, awesome, really looking forward to it!


My favorite episodes were Stevan Apter, Leslie Goldsmith, Lib Gibson, Rob Pike and Jeremy Howard. If you want to go deep into the concepts focus on the tacit episodes or the ones with John Earnest or Aaron Hsu. There are transcripts with each episode so you can always read if your time is that valuable. https://www.arraycast.com/episodes

Full disclosure: I am on the ArrayCast


Thank you!! I have a long drive ahead of me today so this is very welcome.


This is one of the many publications of Ken Iverson available on the J wiki. https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Books/MathForTheLayman J was the language that Ken created with Roger Hui and others after developing APL.


Rob Pike, co-creator of the Go language and UTF-8, tells us why every programmer should know about the array languages.

Host: Conor Hoekstra

Panel: Marshall Lochbaum, Adám Brudzewsky, Stephen Taylor and Bob Therriault.


And then Pike begins by saying he doesn't know much about APL.


That's really weird, since he did implement a calculator that uses a dialect of APL: https://aplwiki.com/wiki/Ivy


I think he’s sort of being humble and also admitting that he’s not a true expert. It’s clear he has more than a passing familiarity with APL.


it doesn't seem like he knows much about anything really


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